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I tried solutions provide on research gate for the same issue&nbsp; :<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; try PISO method<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Timesteps less than 0.005<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; reduce the relaxation energy value from 1.0 to 0.6<\/p>\n<p>but the issue still occurs.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/07\/11-07-2023-1689115020-mceclip1.png\"><\/p>\n<p>The quarter model<br \/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/07\/11-07-2023-1689114182-mceclip0.png\"><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m trying to simulate a wall moving normal to a stationary wall with an amplitude ratio of 0.8 of the initial air gap (200&micro;m)<br \/>Mesh elements are tetrahedrals, mesh size 100 &micro;m<br \/>Dynamic mesh is set to layering and unified remeshing, cell height 20 &micro;m<br \/>The model is laminar with air &#8211; ideal gas<br \/>Time step size =&nbsp; 5e-5 s<\/p>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-292617","topic","type-topic","status-closed","hentry","topic-tag-moving-deforming-mesh-2","topic-tag-negative-cell-volume"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 4.9.10 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Dear fluent users,I have an entire model running well. 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