


{"id":28839,"date":"2018-03-08T00:33:25","date_gmt":"2018-03-08T00:33:25","guid":{"rendered":"\/forum\/forums\/topic\/dm-geometry-prep-for-icem-cfd-and-fluent\/"},"modified":"2018-03-08T00:33:25","modified_gmt":"2018-03-08T00:33:25","slug":"dm-geometry-prep-for-icem-cfd-and-fluent","status":"closed","type":"topic","link":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/forums\/topic\/dm-geometry-prep-for-icem-cfd-and-fluent\/","title":{"rendered":"DM Geometry Prep for ICEM CFD and Fluent"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Hello All,<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>Until recently, I had never used ICEM CFD for meshing and primarily used ANSYS Meshing. However, I desired a higher quality mesh composed of hexahedrons and switched to ICEM CFD. After completing all of the available tutorials for structured meshes, I still have a few questions unanswered.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m quite familiar (I think, haha) with Meshing, so I was used to preparing a geometry in DesignModeler for Meshing. For example, combining bodies as a Part in DM will result in a conformal mesh in Meshing. And within Meshing, I&#8217;d create Named Selections (e.g., pressure_outlet, etc) so Fluent would detect that selection as a pressure_outlet. I&#8217;m not quite sure how to go about this for ICEM CFD. Before going on, below is my project schematic (ANSYS v17.2)<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/attachments\/ce91cd64-911a-48b9-8e10-a89c011b39ac\/d2c1d923-400e-459d-9137-a89c0136b822_projectschematic.jpg?width=690&amp;upscale=false\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>My geometry was created in DM. It&#8217;s a single expansion ramp nozzle, ~1.5 Mach jet perfectly expanded. The fluid domain itself consists of the [internal] fluid nozzle body and an external flow field, pictured below. Currently, I have 3 bodies: the nozzle body; an inner external fluid body (the cylinder-cone-cylinder shape); and the outermost external fluid cylinder body. All bodies are &#8220;Formed as a Part.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/attachments\/ce91cd64-911a-48b9-8e10-a89c011b39ac\/1dd35118-f135-4d59-8cda-a89c0137fff7_domain.jpg?width=690&amp;upscale=false\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>In DM, I created Named Selections for all of my boundaries: 3 pressure_outlets (faces on the external fluid bodies), 1 pressure_inlet at the nozzle inlet; and the inner and outer walls of the nozzle. These selections appear to pass through to ICEM as expected. However, several &#8220;parts&#8221; get added when viewing the Parts tree in ICEM. Referring to the below pic, the parts with the # character (e.g., fluid_nozzle_1#fluid_domain_inner_3) get created when I first open ICEM. What are these? I assume they&#8217;re the shared faces between the bodies. How should I treat these in regards to boundary conditions? Should I not have the bodies formed as a Part in DM? How will this affect Fluent setup?<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6032193\/uploads\/attachments\/ce91cd64-911a-48b9-8e10-a89c011b39ac\/cbf7349f-4b01-4281-a48c-a89c01881ec0_icemparts.jpg?width=690&amp;upscale=false\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>Furthermore, the parts B1 and B2 are parts I created in ICEM when I started blocking. The way I did it was by deselecting\/hiding the external flow geometry so only the nozzle itself was visible. I then created initial block B1 by selecting all visible nozzle curves. Once finished blocking the nozzle, I hid B1 and all nozzle parts and enabled all external flow parts and created another initial block B2. When I create B2, I&#8217;m prompted whether or not I want to merge or replace the existing blocks: I select merge. I then make a handful of splits, o-grids, etc for the external domain.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>How I should proceed after I&#8217;m done blocking and setting pre-mesh params is where I&#8217;m a little foggy. I did go through the Output Mesh tab and apply settings for boundary conditions&#8230;but I&#8217;m unsure of what to apply to every part listed in the above pic. Pressure_outlets, pressure_inlet, and walls are all self explanatory but I&#8217;m lost on what to do all components under PART_1. Should I leave their boxes checked\/enabled? Or unchecked\/disabled? Or do I even need to change settings for boundary conditions in the Output Mesh tab since I already created Named Selections?<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>In the grand scheme of things, my intent is to run LES in Fluent and use the acoustics model to predict far-field noise. Since I plan on using the acoustics model, I&#8217;ll need to be able to select a surface for a sound source (preferably one which surrounds the jet such as the cylinder-cone-cylinder surface). What I expected to have are 3 fluid zones, 3 pressure_outlet b.c.&#8217;s, 1 pressure_inlet b.c., 2 wall b.c.&#8217;s, and several interior zones. I should have NO mesh interfaces or at least that&#8217;s how Fluent interpreted meshes I created in Meshing. Anytime I had mesh interfaces in Fluent, I ended up having covergence difficulties for some unknown reason.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>I could really use some pointers! I completed more than a majority of ICEM tutorials&#8230;enough so that I was able to get a much better mesh than I previously had in Meshing. It&#8217;s just the fine details I don&#8217;t know of. I knew what I was doing, for the most part, when using Meshing but I&#8217;m unsure of how to handle preparing geometry for meshing in ICEM and consequently Fluent. I appreciate any help!<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>Thanks,&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>Justin<\/p>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-28839","topic","type-topic","status-closed","hentry"],"aioseo_notices":[],"acf":[],"custom_fields":[{"0":{"_bbp_old_topic_id":["1006"],"_bbp_old_topic_author_name_id":["Anonymous"],"_bbp_old_is_topic_anonymous_id":["false"],"_bbp_old_closed_status_id":["publish"],"_bbp_author_ip":[null],"_bbp_old_sticky_status_id":["normal"],"_bbp_likes_count":["0","0","0","0","0"],"_btv_view_count":["2289"],"_bbp_subscription":["235907"],"_bbp_topic_status":["unanswered"],"_bbp_status":["publish"],"_bbp_topic_id":["28839"],"_bbp_forum_id":["27792"],"_bbp_engagement":["154942","156260","156643"],"_bbp_voice_count":["3"],"_bbp_reply_count":["9"],"_bbp_last_reply_id":["57842"],"_bbp_last_active_id":["57842"],"_bbp_last_active_time":["2018-04-10 07:25:51"]},"test":"holderjm"}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/28839","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/topic"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/28839\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=28839"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}