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After a total of 39 hours Ansys Polyflow stops the computation because the step size gets decreased below the minimum I am setting. So naturally I lowered the limit (that simulaiton is still running).<\/p>\n<p>I am posting the error code as well. I am worried, that my setup will just get closer and closer to the solution but never actually reach it. Do you have any suggestions on what I could aditionally change to get a solution?<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">|================&gt; |<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">Preprocessors<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">Convergence assumed : Rel. var. LT 1.00000E-03<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">Preprocessors<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">Convergence assumed : Rel. var. LT 1.00000E-03<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">F.E.M. Task<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">*** WARNING *** from [SOLVR]<br \/>Convergence or divergence has not been detected.<br \/>Divergence is assumed.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">Divergence of influent solver occurred !<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">Worst solver is :F.E.M. Task<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">==================================<br \/>At S = 9.9929286E-01,<br \/>dSnew is smaller than dSmin. Stop.<br \/>dSnew = 7.5765381E-05<br \/>dSmin = 1.0000000E-04<br \/>==================================<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">*************************<br \/>* *<br \/>* STATISTICS *<br \/>* *<br \/>*************************<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">Memory information : Global usage before end<br \/>PID : 37180<br \/>Max Virtual Memory : 156269 Mbytes<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">including<br \/>&#8211; Initial Memory : 86993 Mbytes<br \/>&#8211; Additional Memory : 69276 Mbytes<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">Time information :<br \/>CPU time : 139852.3 sec.<br \/>Elapsed time : 139852.0 sec.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">Parallelism information :<br \/>Algo. parallelism : 0.0<br \/>Max procs : 0.0<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">Cpu Monitor :<br \/>POLYFLOW cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 139852.2920\/139852.2913 (1 calls)<br \/>TOPO cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 28.9960\/28.9953 (1 calls)<br \/>FIELDS cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 19.2390\/19.2392 (1 calls)<br \/>Check license cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 0.9870\/0.9877 (13 calls)<br \/>SOLVR cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 0.0150\/0.0148 (1 calls)<br \/>EVOLUT cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 139802.1310\/139802.1309 (1 calls)<br \/>CCONTR cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 575.5230\/575.5221 (93 calls)<br \/>SOLVR cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 0.5670\/0.5705 (42 calls)<br \/>SOLVR cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 137851.5760\/137851.5780 (113 calls)<br \/>Prediag cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 372.8410\/372.8393 (51 calls)<br \/>DescrElement cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 368.0450\/368.0453 (51 calls)<br \/>diagonalSolver cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 125.7790\/125.7759 (51 calls)<br \/>MatrixConstruction cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 110.7410\/110.7420 (51 calls)<br \/>Preitr cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 943.3730\/943.3746 (62 calls)<br \/>DescrElement cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 635.0920\/635.0882 (62 calls)<br \/>describeAnElementLS cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 75.3560\/75.4204 (68923890 calls)<br \/>createConnectivityBlocksLS cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 297.4790\/297.4764 (62 calls)<br \/>Itrslv cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 136336.6460\/136336.6397 (317 calls)<br \/>MatrixConstruction cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 35648.7700\/35648.7694 (317 calls)<br \/>ItrslvSolve cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 100065.8360\/100065.8337 (308 calls)<br \/>SolveGlobalAssembly cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 1912.6130\/1912.6265 (308 calls)<br \/>DLRU cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 10275.6700\/10275.6647 (308 calls)<br \/>Optimization cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 161.5800\/161.5718 (308 calls)<br \/>Permutation cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 143.3230\/143.3232 (22 calls)<br \/>Build elimination order cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 143.2240\/143.2251 (22 calls)<br \/>Symmetrisation cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 3.1940\/3.1934 (22 calls)<br \/>Metis cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 134.0980\/134.0969 (22 calls)<br \/>Delaying cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 12.4480\/12.4459 (22 calls)<br \/>Apply delaying cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 11.7220\/11.7217 (2 calls)<br \/>delayLastDualAfterLastPrimal cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 0.2070\/0.2066 (2 calls)<br \/>Factorize cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 83687.7930\/83687.7964 (308 calls)<br \/>Symbolic pass cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 1399.1610\/1399.6750 (250665188 calls)<br \/>Optimize active matrix ordering cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 421.3170\/421.3119 (616 calls)<br \/>Merge matrix to reach AM size cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 1125.1390\/1125.1455 (308 calls)<br \/>BackSub cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 2701.6370\/2701.6273 (308 calls)<br \/>ItrslvEnd cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 82.8870\/82.8915 (308 calls)<br \/>generate outputs cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 880.5990\/880.6024 (20 calls)<br \/>Stat cpu\/elapsed time in seconds: 0.3150\/0.3144 (1 calls)<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">Stop. Normal end of Polyflow<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">** WARNING IN THE COMMAND LINE ARGUMENTS OF POLYFLOW **<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">Polyflow has been launched with the option -acc nvidia<br \/>however, IKT-SIM-WIN-5 machine is equipped with a non-efficient device.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">GPU usage<br \/>Number of available GPUs on IKT-SIM-WIN-5 : 1<br \/>Device IDs of available GPUs : 0 Quadro RTX 4000<br \/>Polyflow has been launched with the option -na 1.<br \/>Polyflow has been launched in parallel with the option -th 8, a maximum of 8 GPUs will be<br \/>used.<br \/>With the current set up, the GPU with the following device ID will be used with the<br \/>preference order :<br \/>0: Quadro RTX 4000<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">**************************<br \/>* Expert tool messages *<br \/>**************************<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">At step 1, at least one bad element has been detected in the mesh.<br \/>This could occur during divergence and disappear when the failed step<br \/>is restarted. For this reason, the simulation has not been aborted.<br \/>However, the corresponding geometry (boundaries) and results have<br \/>been saved into the files bad_mesh.stl and bad_mesh.csv respectively.<br \/>The faces of the bad element have been saved in the stl file, so they<br \/>can be displayed in Ansys SpaceClaim. If needed, and in order to<br \/>resume the simulation with a better mesh, import the bad_mesh.stl<br \/>file in Ansys SpaceClaim for creating a new geometry, mesh that<br \/>geometry and then, restart Ansys Polyflow using the bad_mesh.csv<br \/>file.<br \/>The worst element has the following feature(s):<br \/>Too small angle in element 1247064, (x,y,z) = (0.026723,<br \/>-0.0011204, 0.6139).<br \/>This can lead to local inaccuracies and possibly convergence<br \/>difficulties. Please check quality indicators as flow balance, heat<br \/>fluxes, &#8230; It is strongly recommended to fix the mesh.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">*******************************<br \/>* Summary of the simulation *<br \/>*******************************<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">The computation failed.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">*****************************<br \/>* Expert tool diagnostics *<br \/>*****************************<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">Out of convergence disk<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">*****************************<br \/>* Expert tool diagnostics *<br \/>*****************************<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">The problem F.E.M. Task has not converged.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">The evolution scheme can not reach the final value of the evolution<br \/>parameter 1. Evolution stops for a value of the evolution parameter<br \/>equals to 0.9994 because the step size has been reduced below the<br \/>minimum (as assigned in Polydata).<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">*****************************<br \/>* Expert tool suggestions *<br \/>*****************************<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">There is a non-linearity in problem Navier-Stokes 3D introduced by<br \/>the power law index (n) of the viscosity law. The value of the power<br \/>law index is 0.755.<br \/>The expert system suggests to use a Picard iterative scheme with a<br \/>number of iterations about 30 or 40.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">There is a non-linearity in problem Navier-Stokes 3D introduced by<br \/>the power law index (n) of the viscosity law. The value of the power<br \/>law index is 0.755.<br \/>The expert system suggests to use an evolution for this parameter<br \/>coupling with Newton-Raphson iterative scheme. The evolution scheme<br \/>must be the following :<br \/>&#8211; f(s) = 1\/s<br \/>&#8211; S-ini = n = 0.755<br \/>&#8211; S-final = 1.0<br \/>&#8211; Initial increment = 0.9437 = n\/0.8.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">If you can not define the evolution with those typical values of the<br \/>evolution parameters, maybe your problem is not well defined. Please<br \/>check the setup of your simulations.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px\">The problem F.E.M. Task does not converge because there are not<br \/>enough iterations. The expert system suggests to change the maximum<br \/>number of iterations from 30 to 56.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks to everyone in advance! 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