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The top\/bottom boundary conditions are PML, and the four sides are radiation boundaries (I&#8217;m trying to minimuze reflections from the model&#8217;s boundary). The model is shown in the following images:&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/04\/03-04-2023-1680552524-Screenshot 2023-04-03 at 3.58.43 PM.png\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/04\/03-04-2023-1680552551-Screenshot 2023-04-03 at 3.58.11 PM.png\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n<p>The model has a 2-dimensional surface above and below the dielectric slab. I use the field calculator to integrate the real part of the normal component of the Poynting vector to determine the total power flux. This is how I determine the reflection and transmission of the dielectric slab. The solution frequency is set to 300 GHz and a frequency sweep of 1 GHz &#8211; 600 GHz, with maximum delta energy set to 0.01 using the direct solver.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve calculated what I expect the normalized transmission and reflection of the slab to be based on its dielectric constant. That plot is below:&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/04\/03-04-2023-1680552871-Screenshot 2023-04-03 at 4.13.09 PM.png\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>The results of the simulation however show very poor agreement. The raw output of the simulations are shown below. There are three plots in total, obtained by changing the &#8216;edit sources&#8217; field of the excitation. Each plot has two traces, one for the top integration surface, and one for the bottom:&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/04\/03-04-2023-1680553121-Screenshot 2023-04-03 at 4.17.25 PM.png\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>From this, I deduce that the transmission is represented by top integration surface with the &#8216;edit sources&#8217; option set to &#8216;total&#8217;, and the reflection is represented by the bottom integration surface with the &#8216;edit sources&#8217; option set to &#8216;scattered&#8217;. Here are those traces overlayed with the previous calculation:&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/04\/03-04-2023-1680553550-Screenshot 2023-04-03 at 4.24.54 PM.png\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>As a sanity check, I&#8217;ve tried to use the conservation of energy to verify that the transmitted vs reflected power is equal to 1. The plot below shows the sum of the transmitted and reflected power vs the incident power (as reported by HFSS):&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/04\/03-04-2023-1680553794-Screenshot 2023-04-03 at 4.28.18 PM.png\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>My questions are:&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>1. Why don&#8217;t the simulations of transmission and reflection match the calculations? I assume the low frequency noise is a result of the finite size of the simulation region (where the model is on the order of the size of the wavelength) but that doesn&#8217;t account for the higher frequency issues.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>2. Why does the reflected + transmitted power not sum to 1, and why is the incident power (as reported by HFSS) not constant? I&#8217;ve set a plane wave excitation to 1 V\/m, yet I see a steady rise in incident power as a function of frequency.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Any help in understanding these issues would be greatly appreciated. I&#8217;ve tried many different boundary conditions, and simulation settings, but haven&#8217;t been able to track down the problem.&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-277726","topic","type-topic","status-closed","hentry","topic-tag-boundary-conditions","topic-tag-hfss","topic-tag-plane-wave","topic-tag-reflection-1","topic-tag-transmission-1","topic-tag-transmission-line"],"aioseo_notices":[],"acf":[],"custom_fields":[{"0":{"_bbp_subscription":["252359","109997"],"_bbp_author_ip":["23.77.218.220"]," _bbp_last_reply_id":["0"]," _bbp_likes_count":["0"],"_btv_view_count":["1933"],"_bbp_status":["publish"],"_bbp_topic_status":["unanswered"],"_bbp_topic_id":["277726"],"_bbp_forum_id":["27793"],"_bbp_engagement":["109997","252359"],"_bbp_voice_count":["2"],"_bbp_reply_count":["2"],"_bbp_last_reply_id":["280754"],"_bbp_last_active_id":["280754"],"_bbp_last_active_time":["2023-04-22 00:44:04"]},"test":"ixg90case-edu"}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/277726","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/topic"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topics\/277726\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=277726"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}