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I am using the Syamlal Obrien Model for the granular viscosity. All other settings are kept the same. <\/p>\n<p>I am using the coupled solver with Presto, QUICK and second-order discretizations, when available. For turbulence I am using the k-omega SST model. I tried it with coupled or SIMPLEC, but for both cases it diverged.<\/p>\n<p>The geometry is the air surrounding a disc (the saw with 150 mm), a curved housing and a suction tube with diameter D=75 mm. The boundary condition on the surface of the disc is defined as velocity inlet, using a velocity profile obtained from a simulation with the real saw geometry. For simplicity, it can be assumed as the tangential velocity of the saw (40 m\/s) and a lower radial component of about 10 m\/s. The second phase enters the domain through the curved surface of the disc with a thickness of 10 mm, and leaves the domain through the suction tube, where a pressure oulet condition with -700 Pa results in a mean velocity of 20 m\/s. The surrounding was set as a pressure inlet with P=0 Pa. Gravity is active in -y direction.<\/p>\n<p>The mesh is refined around the disc, with an element size of 0.4 mm and gets coarser as it gets away from the disc (3 mm). I am using a tetahedral mesh, without prism layers.<\/p>\n<p>The residues stay at a stable level (around 1E-2 to 1E-3) up to approx. 100 iterations where the residue of k and omega just jump to 1E0, 1E4 and up to 1E71, as in the figure: <\/p>\n<div class=\"embedExternal embedImage\">\n<div class=\"embedExternal-content\">\n<a class=\"embedImage-link\" href=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/forum-uploads\/219\/NAT0OZBE69OL.png\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" class=\"embedImage-img\" src=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/forum-uploads\/219\/NAT0OZBE69OL.png\" alt=\"divergence.png\" \/><br \/>\n<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-168762","topic","type-topic","status-closed","hentry"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 4.9.10 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Hi,I am simulating a steady multiphase flow case, consisting of air and sawdust particles, using the ganular mixture model, but the simulation rapidly diverges after approx. 100 iterations. 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