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This is primarily driven by the vapor content of air at the water-air interface.<\/p>\n<p>I found this discussion on the problem where a user had developed a UDF to solve this problem (see a version with a few adjustments below) : <a href=\"\/forum\/discussion\/26620\/saturation-temperature-udf-for-evaporation-condensation\" rel=\"nofollow\">\/forum\/discussion\/26620\/saturation-temperature-udf-for-evaporation-condensation<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The setup this is used with has 2 phases, one a mixture of air and water vapor and the other is water. <\/p>\n<p>The results of using the UDF seem wrong intuitively. On a test where I ran warm air over a pool of water, the drier air had a higher saturation temperature and the lower air had a lower saturation temperature. Additionally, the fluctuation of saturation pressures across the domain is of the order 1e-1 which is much too low.<\/p>\n<p>I think the calculation of partial pressure on line 75 is wrong:<\/p>\n<p> (C_P(c, t)+ p_op)* (N_wv \/ N_total)<\/p>\n<p>I&#039;m not sure if it should be this, or:<\/p>\n<p> (C_P(c, t))* (N_wv \/ N_total) + p_op<\/p>\n<p>or:<\/p>\n<p> (C_P(c, t))* (N_wv \/ N_total)<\/p>\n<p>or something else entirely. To me the final option makes sense, but this could lead to an error as there would be log_10(0) on line 81.<\/p>\n<p>Any advice would be appreciated.<\/p>\n<p>Cheers<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>#include &quot;udf.h&quot;<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>#define MOLAR_MASS_WATER 18.01534 \/\/g\/mol<\/p>\n<p>#define MOLAR_MASS_AIR 28.97 \/\/ g\/mol<\/p>\n<p>#define RHO_WV 0.5542 \/\/ kg\/m3<\/p>\n<p>#define RHO_AIR 1.225 \/\/ kg\/m3<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>DEFINE_PROPERTY(saturation_temp, c, t)<\/p>\n<p>{<\/p>\n<p> \/\/ t: mixture thread<\/p>\n<p> \/\/ c: cell variable<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p> \/\/ Cell volume<\/p>\n<p> real vol = C_VOLUME(c, t);<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p> Thread *pt = THREAD_SUB_THREAD(t, 0); \/\/ Primary phase thread<\/p>\n<p> Thread *st = THREAD_SUB_THREAD(t, 1); \/\/ Secondary phase thread<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p> \/\/ Get the volume fraction of both phases<\/p>\n<p> real vf_s = C_VOF(c, st);<\/p>\n<p> real vf_p = 1 &#8211; vf_s;<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p> \/\/ Get the pressure of the mixture&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p> real p_mix = C_P(c, t);<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p> \/\/ Get the operating pressure<\/p>\n<p> real p_op = RP_Get_Real(&quot;operating-pressure&quot;);<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p> \/\/ Primary phase density<\/p>\n<p> real rho_p = C_R(c, pt);<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p> \/\/ Get mass fractions in primary phase<\/p>\n<p> real mf[2]; \/\/ to store mass fractions<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p> Material *m = THREAD_MATERIAL(pt);<\/p>\n<p> Material *sp = NULL;<\/p>\n<p> int i; \/\/ Species index &#8211; 0 for water vapor and 1 for air<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p> mixture_species_loop(m, sp, i)<\/p>\n<p> {<\/p>\n<p> mf[i] = C_YI(c, pt, i);<\/p>\n<p> }<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p> real p_w; \/\/ h20 pressure for cell<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p> \/\/ If secondary phase only<\/p>\n<p> if (vf_s == 1)<\/p>\n<p> {<\/p>\n<p> p_w = p_mix + p_op;<\/p>\n<p> }<\/p>\n<p> \/\/ If primary phase or mixture of phases<\/p>\n<p> else&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p> {<\/p>\n<p> \/\/ Find the partial pressure of water vapour<\/p>\n<p> \/\/ partial pressure = cell pressure * water mole fraction<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p> \/\/ mass of primary phase in cell<\/p>\n<p> real m_prim = rho_p * vol * vf_p;<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p> \/\/ mass of water vapour and air in cell<\/p>\n<p> real m_wv = mf[0] * m_prim;<\/p>\n<p> real m_air = m_prim &#8211; m_wv;<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p> \/\/ No of moles in water vapour and air<\/p>\n<p> real N_wv = m_wv \/ MOLAR_MASS_WATER;<\/p>\n<p> real N_air = m_air \/ MOLAR_MASS_AIR;<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p> real N_total = N_wv + N_air;<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p> \/\/ water vapour partial pressure<\/p>\n<p> p_w = (C_P(c, t)+ p_op)* (N_wv \/ N_total);<\/p>\n<p> }<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p> \/\/ Calculate saturation temperature<\/p>\n<p> real t_sat;<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p> t_sat = (1730.63 \/ (10.196 &#8211; log10(p_w))) + 39.724;<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p> return t_sat;<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>}<\/p>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-160534","topic","type-topic","status-closed","hentry","topic-tag-cfd","topic-tag-evaporation-condensation","topic-tag-fluent","topic-tag-udf-fluent"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 4.9.10 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Hello all,I have been trying to model evaporation at temperatures far well below 100C. 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