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Ideally, they should send the corrupt .proj file to us, and then we are able to debug what is going on.&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p class=&#8221;hassub&#8221; style=&#8221;text-indent: -.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in; background: #FBFBFB; margin: 0in 11.25pt 0in 47.25pt;&#8221;&gt;&lt;!&#8211; [if !supportLists]&#8211;&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol; color: black;&#8221;&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;mso-list: Ignore;&#8221;&gt;&middot;&lt;span style=&#8221;font: 7.0pt &#8216;Times New Roman&#8217;;&#8221;&gt; &lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;!&#8211;[endif]&#8211;&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: &#8216;Open Sans&#8217;,sans-serif; color: black;&#8221;&gt;any possibility to keep intermediate .proj files? (the software should check that the file is not corrupted before deleting by the way)&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p class=&#8221;hassub&#8221; style=&#8221;background: #FBFBFB; margin: 0in 11.25pt 0in 0in;&#8221;&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;font-size: 11.0pt; color: #0070c0;&#8221;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; LSPP doesn&rsquo;t have ability to check whether the saved .proj file is corrupted or not, &nbsp;unless it is read into LSPP.&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p class=&#8221;hassub&#8221; style=&#8221;text-indent: -.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in; background: #FBFBFB; margin: 0in 11.25pt 0in 47.25pt;&#8221;&gt;&lt;!&#8211; [if !supportLists]&#8211;&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol; color: black;&#8221;&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;mso-list: Ignore;&#8221;&gt;&middot;&lt;span style=&#8221;font: 7.0pt &#8216;Times New Roman&#8217;;&#8221;&gt; &lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;!&#8211;[endif]&#8211;&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: &#8216;Open Sans&#8217;,sans-serif; color: black;&#8221;&gt;any possibility to generate crash dumps that could then be used by developpers for debug (difficult to post a bug for something that does not happen on a freshly opened file)&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p class=&#8221;hassub&#8221; style=&#8221;background: #FBFBFB; margin: 0in 11.25pt 0in 0in;&#8221;&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;font-size: 11.0pt; color: black;&#8221;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;\/span&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;font-size: 11.0pt; color: #0070c0;&#8221;&gt;The crash dumps might be deceptive, as the real cause of crash might result from the memory corruption. Ideally, we need to get the &ldquo;model + .cfile&rdquo; from our customers to debug this problem.&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p class=&#8221;hassub&#8221; style=&#8221;text-indent: -.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in; background: #FBFBFB; margin: 0in 11.25pt 0in 47.25pt;&#8221;&gt;&lt;!&#8211; [if !supportLists]&#8211;&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol; color: black;&#8221;&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;mso-list: Ignore;&#8221;&gt;&middot;&lt;span style=&#8221;font: 7.0pt &#8216;Times New Roman&#8217;;&#8221;&gt; &lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;!&#8211;[endif]&#8211;&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: &#8216;Open Sans&#8217;,sans-serif; color: black;&#8221;&gt;when it becomes unresponsive (e.g. on element delete), what happens internally? If updating the nodes\/elements database, any function to check its consistency (to prevent crashing) ? How long to wait to see if it can recover (lets say for a model &lt;50k elements on a modern PC)?&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p class=&#8221;hassub&#8221; style=&#8221;background: #FBFBFB; margin: 0in 11.25pt 0in 0in;&#8221;&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;font-size: 11.0pt; color: #0070c0;&#8221;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; When it comes to a model with just &lt;50k elements, LSPP should be able to handle the element deletion without any wait. When LSPP becomes unresponsible, it probably goes into a dead loop or something else, it is hard to say how long one will wait for.&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p class=&#8221;hassub&#8221; style=&#8221;background: #FBFBFB; margin: 0in 11.25pt 0in 0in;&#8221;&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;font-size: 11.0pt; color: #0070c0;&#8221;&gt;&#8221;&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p class=&#8221;hassub&#8221; style=&#8221;background: #FBFBFB; margin: 0in 11.25pt 0in 0in;&#8221;&gt;&nbsp;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p class=&#8221;hassub&#8221; style=&#8221;background: #FBFBFB; margin: 0in 11.25pt 0in 0in;&#8221;&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);&#8221;&gt;So, it would be best&nbsp; if you could create a support&nbsp; case and send us your model.&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p class=&#8221;hassub&#8221; style=&#8221;background: #FBFBFB; margin: 0in 11.25pt 0in 0in;&#8221;&gt;&nbsp;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p class=&#8221;hassub&#8221; style=&#8221;background: #FBFBFB; margin: 0in 11.25pt 0in 0in;&#8221;&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);&#8221;&gt;Let me know if this helps or not.&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p class=&#8221;hassub&#8221; style=&#8221;background: #FBFBFB; margin: 0in 11.25pt 0in 0in;&#8221;&gt;&nbsp;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p class=&#8221;hassub&#8221; style=&#8221;background: #FBFBFB; margin: 0in 11.25pt 0in 0in;&#8221;&gt;&lt;span style=&#8221;font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);&#8221;&gt;Reno.&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-365471","reply","type-reply","status-publish","hentry"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 4.9.10 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Hello Philippe,I contacted one of the LS-PrePost developers with your questions and here are his answers:&quot;\u00b7\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"max-image-preview:large\" \/>\n\t<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/innovationspace.ansys.com\/forum\/forums\/reply\/365471\/\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"generator\" content=\"All in One SEO (AIOSEO) 4.9.10\" \/>\n\t\t<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n\t\t<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Ansys Learning Forum | Ansys Innovation Space\" \/>\n\t\t<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n\t\t<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Reply To: Prepost repeated crashing: any advice? 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