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How do I set the&nbsp;<strong>supersonic\/initial gauge pressure<\/strong> correctly? I set the operating pressure to 0 Pa.&lt;br&gt;4. As I assume that the Mach number exceeds 1, is the pressure based solver off the table? I still have the feeling that pressure-based works a bit better in my case.&lt;br&gt;5. I do monitor mass flow rate at the inlet and outlet. It&#8217;s the same value at the inlet as at the outlet (negative). Is that what you ment with monitoring flux?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;With bad I mean things like that:&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;density-based:&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/02\/01-02-2024-1706806667-mceclip2.png\" width=\"1100\" height=\"509\" \/>&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;pressure-based:&lt;br&gt;<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/02\/01-02-2024-1706806584-mceclip1.png\" width=\"1076\" height=\"498\" \/>&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;@NickFL&lt;br&gt;I will try to run the calculation for more iterations and &#8220;babsit&#8221; it. In what diensions do you talk? Is the expected time for such a difficult model more like 20000 iterations? Then I&#8217;m gonna babysit for days?&lt;br&gt;The 2D model might be a good starting point, I&#8217;ll try that.&lt;\/p&gt;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-348345","reply","type-reply","status-publish","hentry"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 4.9.10 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Thank you both for your reply!@V.V.1. Would you suggest first order discretization only for energy or for all?2. How low should I go with the URF for energy or with the CFL number?3. Mentioning the initial gauge pressure is a very good point. 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