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I need the result and have no time and really I&#8217;ve been confused about where are my problems.<br \/>\nhere is my definition for my structure:  I should verify my result with the paper that they wrote about the process: <br \/>\n<strong>T<\/strong>he Ansys non-linear mechanics was used, <strong>2.<\/strong> they have assumed two plates as rigid bodies. <strong>3<\/strong>. Fixed support was placed for the bottom surface and a vertical displacement ramped at 10 substeps along the y-direction. (0.196 mm in the y-direction ).<strong> 4. <\/strong>with solid tetrahedral element <strong>5. <\/strong>  Bilinear Isotropic Strain Hardening (BISO) material model. <strong>6.<\/strong> <strong>frictionless contact.<\/strong><br \/>\nthe thickness in this structure is 0.3 mm.<br \/>\nI tried several times with frictionless contact but all the time UNconvergency accrued.  and the structure escape and disappeared so I changed the connection to frictional with 0.1 coefficients and the simulation is done very well but the result did not match with the paper as you can see below in the stress-strain curve.<br \/>\nfor this result, I use tetrahedrons mesh with the local and global size 0.3 mm. (if I make the mesh size smaller to 0.2 or 0.25 the errors happened and UNconverged, So I assumed the mesh size 0.3)<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/forum-uploads\/637\/AGW40K2VWGMM.png\" width=\"715\" height=\"485\" \/>from the result, you can see anything is <strong>not <\/strong>matched  (E and yield stress) and there is so much deviation from the paper.<br \/>\nin the paper, they said that: &#8220;Mesh refinements were carried out using a mesh sensitivity analysis resulting in the number of finite element nodes and elements with a maximum and minimum element sizes of 0.002 and 0.0015 mm respectively.&#8221; based on their result they have 996480 Elements and 3356756 Nodes.<br \/>\nSo I went ahead in this way that I will explain for you below.<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/forum-uploads\/317\/VRIMXEWI8YYY.png\" width=\"454\" height=\"505\" \/><\/p>\n<p>I continued with this mesh size, ( I know it is very coarse mesh because the thickness is 0.3 and after meshing, the structure has really coarse mesh). <br \/>\nIf I use 0.3 for the size I have better mesh but not very good and if i used 0.25 or 0.2 I had too much mesh that they were so small and after solving I got an error of <strong>un<\/strong>convergency) so I left the mesh as default and continue <br \/>\nI used frictional (coefficient 0.1) contact for both the top and bottom plate with the structure ( but they mentioned frictionless and I do not know how to constraint the structure from moving in frictionless contact) can you help me with this problem?<br \/>\nhere are my connections: bor both plates and structures is the same<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/forum-uploads\/540\/CVNYMGCE8RSP.png\" width=\"439\" height=\"581\" \/><br \/>\nAnalysis setting :<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/forum-uploads\/486\/O4SOVSF1GA8A.png\" width=\"418\" height=\"459\" \/><\/p>\n<p>I put two remote points for the plates and this is their boundary conditions:<br \/>\nTop plate:<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/forum-uploads\/763\/JYILJX639UKR.png\" width=\"575\" height=\"429\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Bottom plate:<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/forum-uploads\/832\/CK8UMY3D12FR.png\" width=\"405\" height=\"419\" \/><\/p>\n<p>and i defined as you said me before <\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/forum-uploads\/607\/M57LR26NE18V.png\" width=\"427\" height=\"251\" \/><br \/>\nI got many errors and it has stoped <br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/forum\/wp-content\/uploads\/forum-uploads\/187\/IKBXQ77HS6AD.png\" width=\"686\" height=\"189\" \/><br \/>\ncan you help me to say that am I going in the correct way? I have limit time and am faced with many problems and please correct me if i am wrong<\/p>\n<p>Thank you inadvanced <\/p>\n","protected":false},"template":"","class_list":["post-190732","reply","type-reply","status-publish","hentry"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 4.9.10 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"dear @phoenix098 Right now tried this way as you said and just I am waiting for the result. May I explain to you my simulation and maybe you can help me to get the result. 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